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Jake & Dinos Chapman

Here’s a meaningless and slightly Dada interview with Turner-nominated artists Jake and Dinos Chapman, along with a collage of squalid visual reasoning.

Jake and Dinos Chapman’s work usually triggers one of two responses in people: shock or laughter. According to the artists, “Shock is a theatrical response: when people see something that doesn’t sit with their moral position, they feign shock. Whereas laughter – it just happens. You don’t choose to laugh, a horrible thing inside you says, ‘I’m gonna ignore my morality and I’m gonna laugh’.” 1

Since 1994 Jake and Dinos have been prolifically producing art that’s at once macabre and comical, commenting on the atrocities and symbols, and the symbolic atrocities, of modern times. Following their recent show at the Royal Academy Summer Exhibition, I sent them some questions about their work. But, them being the Chapman Brothers, the answers I got in return were about as decipherable as Gertrude Stein’s Tender Buttons. Here they are, unedited and unabridged. They might make you feign shock or they might make you laugh.

What do you think of the conceptual art movement, especially when you compare its current trajectory to its original intention?

The roots of all goodness lie in the filth soil of our appreciation for goodness sake.

What are you most concerned with when making a work of art?

Logically, must harmony come from deep inside the heart… Harmony much too very much based on dog trust cat not so much cat trust dog. As soon as use force, creates pussy fear. Pussy fear and doggy trust cannot go together on walk in sunshine, but only sit in shadow of garden sprinkler. Wet cat. Wet dog.

When was the first time you realised human beings are violent?

When you discontent, you always want more, more, more, more, more like selfish-bitch-ache. Your desire can not never ever be so satisfied that you sit down relax it all out nice and flat like a pancake. But when practise contentment, can you can say to yourself in conversation in your own mind-head, ‘Oh yes – I already have already everything that I really need to have in pocket.’

Why do you think people are prone to moral outrage in the face of challenging art work?

Sometimes one of us creates a dynamic impression by saying out something shout loud, and sometimes one of us creates significant an impression by remaining stone like silent cloud hang before avalanche tumble down death mummy dead baby too.

Sometimes one of us creates a dynamic impression by saying out something shout loud, and sometimes one of us creates significant an impression by remaining stone like silent cloud hang before avalanche tumble down death mummy dead baby too.

Is there a correlation between moral outrage and guilt?

There is no need for erect temples, no need complicated for philosophies. My tingle brain and my soft shell heart are my organ temples; my philosophy is the kindness cat has for injured mouse.

Sometimes one of us creates a dynamic impression by saying out something shout loud, and sometimes one of us creates significant an impression by remaining stone like silent cloud hang before avalanche tumble down death mummy dead baby too.

As viewers, is it possible that confronting our own ugliness in cathartic art gives us more mental distress – especially for people who have no outlet to rid themselves of repression – or can it really heal us as a society?

Main my aim concern is meeting with public man lady boy girl people because main my commitment to all, main interest is promotion of human value of human affection, human compassion and human religious human harmony humankind.

Dinos once said that laughter shows up the fault lines in morality; what does this mean to you both in relation to how you structure your work and how you place humour within it?

Dinos true say ultimate authority must always rest with individual’s own pity for own squalor.

As the middle class become more and more sophisticated in how they negotiate shocking art, even appropriating/commodifying works of art that ultimately mock the core of their being, what do you think it takes to truly offend and criticise them nowadays?

 It is sometimes difficult to violent suppress people in the long run, as example of the Soviet Union and Eastern European countries has shown on map of pain.

What is the primary message you’d like to communicate with your new work at the Royal Academy Summer Exhibition?

More compassionate mind, more sense of concern for other’s unwell-being, is big source of small happiness.

What do you find ridiculous these days?

Death means change our clothes. Clothes become old, then time to come change. So this body become old and flakey, and then time come, take young body to sewer.

What is your idea of beauty?

As human being, anger is part of mind. Irritation also part of mind. But you can do – anger come, go mind stay mind. Never mind keep in your sort of – your sort of inner mind world, then create a lot of mind suspicion, a lot of mind distrust, a lot of negative mind things, more worry, mind.

Words Esra Gurmen

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